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Auros's avatar

People really need to understand that suburbs don't have to suck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWsGBRdK2N0

https://philadelphiaencyclopedia.org/essays/streetcar-suburbs-2/

https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2019/7/3/making-normal-neighborhoods-legal-again

We don't have to coerce everyone into living in five-over-ones or something. We just need to make it legal to build a greater variety of stuff, and invest in public transit. A _lot_ of people would _like_ to live in something like a streetcar suburb, there just isn't any supply of that, because we radically subsidized auto infrastructure while banning the building types for denser suburbs, in order to "protect" the suburbs from "undesirable elements".

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James Wang's avatar

How times change—this definitely wasn’t the Fremont I grew up in over 25 years ago. I lived on the wrong side of the city, where all of my parents Asian friends lived near Mission San Jose High School… and we were on the other side.

I grew up with a lot of diversity though. Neighbors with kids I played with were black, Hispanic, and working class white, which these days would probably get pilloried as a sitcom trying too hard. That all disappeared entirely when we moved to Pleasanton, where they had to break out Jewish as a separate category in school to promote its diversity (if I recall, it was 20% Jewish, 3% other, and white for the rest).

I definitely remember more, uh, roughhousing with knives in Fremont than other folks who I later went to school or college with were used to. We also definitely had police coming in for DARE (legacy of the 90s) and telling us gangs were bad. There were a lot more empty lots, areas, and urban warehouses then that are now all of these huge apartment complexes you talk about or mini shopping/grocery centers.

I have friends there now who say it’s basically the bedroom community for biotech workers.

In any case, I’m not quite sure what to think of the evolution of the Bay Area over time. It wasn’t such a monoculture before. It was expensive but not so much so that a relatively poor immigrant family could live somewhere, even if not in the school district desired… I guess I actually do remember crime was worse in the 90s so there was that much.

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