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Andy's avatar

I immediately had to go look up the apartment building at Alamo Square. I've never seen it and would not have guessed it there from any picture or film of the painted ladies I've ever seen. That's such a cultural tell.

There are these old lumber baron mansions on and around Center Avenue in Bay City MI. A lot of them have been chopped up into apartments, but people still love them. But I'm guessing if you proposed building a bunch of three story three unit apartments, even promising Victorian styling, they'd probably lose their mind. Even though there's nothing functionally different about the two at this point. Sometimes what makes a thing acceptable and attractive is just being there for a while. I find brand new things always look a bit out of place, it's the simple fact that's it's unfamiliar. People get used to things. I'd wager some of those mediocre apartments in the picture at the top might even fade into desirable neighborhoods.

People had been grumping in my city (Midland, MI) about the number of apartments going up. (I'm talking like two buildings) Couple years later and none of the concerned parties are back in front of city council with reams of evidence that the terrible things they foresaw have come to pass. None of the things did and I'll bet they don't even notice that the apartments are there anymore.

Lastly, the way Plan Books as they're calling them here are proposed is not to limit what can be built, but to have ready to go plans for the sake of expediency, and knocking out upfront costs. Done well I think it could improve the likelihood of developers (especially smaller ones) trying to build denser housing in town. Otherwise, it's going to be a difficult learning curve around here to transition the industry from single family outskirts thinking.

Sorry for going on. Really appreciate your writing.

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We are about to upzone most of San Francisco with the Family Zoning Plan and it’s essential that some of these new buildings be attractive. Go look at the facade on the building going up at Cesar Chavez and Valencia.

https://sfyimby.com/2024/12/construction-underway-at-1633-valencia-street-san-francisco.html

The brick facade looks better in person and the blue accents really do it.

Public housing should especially be attractive, as it is being built with public money and we have to look at it. But most of the HOPE VI stuff looks fine. It might also help the residents feel a sense of pride and take care of it better. It seems to.

There is an acronym that describes YIMBY but with good design. I will see if I can find it. Often people make fake excuses for opposing new construction but I am increasingly of the opinion that we need more *and* better looking buildings.

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