Great article on the topic. Finally have someone I can cite/refer folks to with a lot of the twists and turns in both the history and complexity of the topic of AA. I’ve been spending too much time in and around Twitter and keep pausing, and then biting my tongue at the crazy takes on AA on all sides.
Not to “both sides” it, but the topic is extremely complicated and it’s hard to write a more complete take without dealing with both its complexities and how the term has both been valorized for doing much more than it’s actually doing (and adding to complacency that current policy is working well--and somehow believing that Harvard is doing a good job before of being a golden ladder for folks of slave ancestries as a reaction to the decision) or demonized with a fundamental misunderstanding of what it’s supposed to do (the point on legacy, Asian admissions, etc that you mention).
I think it's a bit inaccurate how so much of Twitter referred to the military exemption in the decision as about recruiting poor PoC for cannon fodder (even if Justice KBJ did too). They were talking specifically about military _academy_ admissions, not general recruitment. Academies are where the officer corps comes from, the management and elites of the military (18% of active duty).
The exemption was still embarrassing for Roberts and his majority, but I'd chalk it up it more to the political instinct to not create annoyances for military top brass.
I really wish you would read just a little outside of your bubble. You'd be able to avoid piling onto strawmen and being able to consider other points of view would strengthen your own arguments. Too much of the time you're writing oversimplifies all of your intellectual opponents into the evil and the suckers, which is boring on top of usually being wrong.
"Under AA, Asian students eligible for top-tier universities still were admitted to equivalent-level top tier schools but were less likely to get their first choice over their second"
Anyways - if my local post office made an Asians-only line I would have a big problem with that and that wouldn't change if they could assure me the wait time was just a couple minutes longer.
Also - what does this stat mean: "Emerging minorities like Asian Americans — 96% of whom came or were born after the 1965 immigration act"? I assume you're saying that only 4% of Asian people can trace their family history back to before 1965? I wonder if you know what that stat looks like for Black Americans? I suspect it's far lower than you'd think, especially for college-aged kids.
(select Black as the census category and % Mothers Immigrant as the statistics)
From 2016-2021, 16% of new Black mothers in the US are immigrants and that share is growing, and it doesn't account for how many new Black mothers may be 2nd generation immigrants from families that arrived after 1965. It also doesn't account for how many of today's college kids are from mixed-race or interracially-adopted families. I'd guess that's another 10%, and growing quickly.
The Distraction & Distortion of Affirmative Action
Great article on the topic. Finally have someone I can cite/refer folks to with a lot of the twists and turns in both the history and complexity of the topic of AA. I’ve been spending too much time in and around Twitter and keep pausing, and then biting my tongue at the crazy takes on AA on all sides.
Not to “both sides” it, but the topic is extremely complicated and it’s hard to write a more complete take without dealing with both its complexities and how the term has both been valorized for doing much more than it’s actually doing (and adding to complacency that current policy is working well--and somehow believing that Harvard is doing a good job before of being a golden ladder for folks of slave ancestries as a reaction to the decision) or demonized with a fundamental misunderstanding of what it’s supposed to do (the point on legacy, Asian admissions, etc that you mention).
Thanks, this is a great article.
FYI, "case in point" is the expression you meant, not "case and point".
I think it's a bit inaccurate how so much of Twitter referred to the military exemption in the decision as about recruiting poor PoC for cannon fodder (even if Justice KBJ did too). They were talking specifically about military _academy_ admissions, not general recruitment. Academies are where the officer corps comes from, the management and elites of the military (18% of active duty).
The exemption was still embarrassing for Roberts and his majority, but I'd chalk it up it more to the political instinct to not create annoyances for military top brass.
I really wish you would read just a little outside of your bubble. You'd be able to avoid piling onto strawmen and being able to consider other points of view would strengthen your own arguments. Too much of the time you're writing oversimplifies all of your intellectual opponents into the evil and the suckers, which is boring on top of usually being wrong.
"Under AA, Asian students eligible for top-tier universities still were admitted to equivalent-level top tier schools but were less likely to get their first choice over their second"
Anyways - if my local post office made an Asians-only line I would have a big problem with that and that wouldn't change if they could assure me the wait time was just a couple minutes longer.
Also - what does this stat mean: "Emerging minorities like Asian Americans — 96% of whom came or were born after the 1965 immigration act"? I assume you're saying that only 4% of Asian people can trace their family history back to before 1965? I wonder if you know what that stat looks like for Black Americans? I suspect it's far lower than you'd think, especially for college-aged kids.
Check out the stats from this page:
https://theusaindata.pythonanywhere.com/segregation.
(select Black as the census category and % Mothers Immigrant as the statistics)
From 2016-2021, 16% of new Black mothers in the US are immigrants and that share is growing, and it doesn't account for how many new Black mothers may be 2nd generation immigrants from families that arrived after 1965. It also doesn't account for how many of today's college kids are from mixed-race or interracially-adopted families. I'd guess that's another 10%, and growing quickly.
Not even a word about equality under the law. Bad evil Republicans. Got it.